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Oh, I love bureaucracy 
2nd-Jul-2007 10:08 am
So, I'm advised to make my request for approval to marry ybunny early enough to prevent snafus.

So, exactly four months before the wedding, I submit our paperwork. I am assured that with the normal backload of work that the Immigration office has to do that it can take up to 8 weeks for processing.

Apparently, this is the one time that they decide to be quick. (That is, after they send back the paperwork to be rewritten on blue paper instead of white. *rolleyes*)

I just got back out approval to marry.

Valid until? 27 September.

Our wedding? 6 October

Brilliant. *facepalm*

EDIT: The man at the other end of the contact number for my paperwork says that it will be okay because the approval certificate only needs to be valid until we go to the Registry Office. This is not what I was told before. I'll go down to St. Nicholas House and make sure. I wish that all the Immigration people would get on the SAME PAGE. It would save my poor heart from these adrenaline rushes.
2nd-Jul-2007 09:21 am (UTC)
Oh geez... that's so ridiculous! I feel for you. Blåtand and I are working through our paperwork to file for me to stay as wife from with Denmark.

The reason is if I filed from the USA (preferred method) he would have to file HIS section no later than 2 weeks AFTER they receive my application. Wha?! The other provision was 'to file from within Denmark both sets of paperwork at the same time...' mkay. And we were later advised to go that route by the Immigration help line. Why don't they just say that from the beginning instead of all the bureaucratic gymnastics on the website, etc? ugh.

Bureaucracy stinks...

I hope you can get them to extend the license. Also, didn't you have to tell them the date of the wedding? In which case, I'd wonder why they'd process it so very quickly so the visa runs out like the week before the wedding. Absolutely ridiculous. I hope you can get it resolved without having to refile.
2nd-Jul-2007 12:46 pm (UTC)
The best laid plans of mice and men, eh? How frustrating.

I do hope it all works out.
2nd-Jul-2007 01:14 pm (UTC)
2nd-Jul-2007 01:44 pm (UTC)
Don't get me started on immigration! My husband is from Algeria and has been here for 12 years and has been married to me for neary 6 years but two years ago they tell him he can't stay in the UK as he has to apply for a permenant visa. After lots of rubbish and Home Office incompetance he had to go back to Algiers to apply from there else face deportation. He's there now and it seems the British Embassy in Algiers is just as crap. It's a very long story cited in my LJ so won't go on about it now, but I wish you luck with any further rotten bureaucracy!
2nd-Jul-2007 03:26 pm (UTC)
2nd-Jul-2007 04:42 pm (UTC)
My husband (a Scotsman) and I were married in the States and it was an equal migraine. Seems as if all the government offices/officials/document stampers work from a different set of instructions. Hang in there and remember 'tis all worth it in the end.
2nd-Jul-2007 06:40 pm (UTC)
2nd-Jul-2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
Is 6 October your wedding date? I take it that the Registry Office is the legal bit where the powers-that-be say that your union is legal, binding and (hopefuly) lasting. That would be the equivalent of the Standesamt here in Germany. Boy, now that I think about it, an 8 week window to get married is just asking for stress. Here in Germany, once you have all the formalities taken care of, you have a window of six months ... a little more breathing room.

Anyhow, here comes my theory, based on what I know from Germany (like that will make a difference where you want to get married). Here, a church wedding is entirely optional, and has no legal standing ... it is not even communicated back to the Standesamt (the German authorities in charge of getting folks hitched). In fact, once the Standesbeamter (-beamtin, as in our case) says you're wed, thats it, you're wed, and there is nothing your preacher can do about it, no matter how unholy the union migh be (no insuations). So, that being the case, I would imagine that the Registry Office up there, like the Standesamt down here, doesn't care ... and in most cases will never even know, when or if you hold a church service. But, don't let me lull you into any false sense of security.

Our Standesamt ceremony was a real hoot. By design, we did not invite anyone to the ceremony (wittnesses are no longer requred). We were in and out faster than probably most Las Vegas ceremonies. Half the time we spent in the room with the Standesbeamtin was spent listening to her explain why she couldn't afford to light the candles (and the explanation was sounding kind of weak considering the candles were already burned halfway down when we came in). She went on to draw our attention to the cracks in the wall for which there wasn't any money to repair. Finally, she rounded up this round of matremonial chitchat with her editorializing about the potholes in the street that the city could no longer afford to repair. Sniff, sniff.

We were glad that we kept this part of our getting married to ourselves. Our church service was 12 weeks later ... in a completely different jurisdicition ... even a different Bundesland. It was a beautiful celebration with family and friends. And, it was four years ago last Thursday.
2nd-Jul-2007 07:44 pm (UTC)
Happy Anniversary! :)

Yes, the registry office is the part that requires the permission slip (aka the Certificate of Approval/COA).

We need the COA to apply for a marriage license.
Basically, applying for a marriage license gives you permission to do the legal bit in a church instead of the registry office.

If nothing else works, we'll do something similar to what you've done. Although, I hope without the pothole chitchat!

In other news, I love the word Bundesland. Heh.
3rd-Jul-2007 12:36 pm (UTC)
Eight weeks isn't all that unusual; in my state in the US you have 60 days.
3rd-Jul-2007 01:34 am (UTC)
Yikes dude :)
You will get it all handled.
Damn governmental entities and red tape!

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